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河合: 僕がよくいうのは、話の内容と、こっちの疲れの度合いの乖離がひどい場合は、相手の病状は深い、というんです。たとえば、こられた人が「人を殺したい。自分も死にたい」とかそんな話をしたら、しんどくなるのは当たり前でしょう。そうではなくて、わりとふつうの話をして帰っていったのに、気がついたらものすごく疲れている場合があるんです。その場合はもう、その人の病状は深い。

茂木: ほ〜、なるほど〜。

河合: それはやっぱり、こちら側が相手と関係をもつために、ものすごく苦労してる証拠ですね。話のコンテンツ(内容)は簡単なんですよ。それではないところで、ものすごい苦労してるわけ。
— 河合隼雄がタクシーに乗ると運転手が身の上話を語り出す - アンカテ (via otsune)
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